KOF XIII - Team K' (K', Kula Diamond, Maxima)

[Ice-Kun]

Better and faster than his previous crouching B. Good stuf!

I wonder if he can do:
1.) Cancel his df + C into his hcb + B which is a close grab.
2.) Drive Cancel from hcb + K/BD > qcb + P into his (again) close grab hcb + B > qcb + P

Please try it out if you have time. Thanks!

[Kane317]

You mean the Maxima press (includes EX version as well)  can be supercanceled?  How about the Maxima press followup (EX too) ? Can it be supercanceled as well?

I'm sorry, should have been clear. Maxima Press followup can be SC'd while the Ex version can do both according to the BBS.

[kengarou]

thanks guys for the info,  to tv kun  , nice creativity of yours,  must test it out when i have the time

[Ice-Kun]

thanks guys for the info,  to tv kun  , nice creativity of yours,  must test it out when i have the time

Hah, it's just that I want to see the potentials of that move. K' can do loops out of his Minute & Narrow Spike. Kula with her Lay Spins + follow-ups. Maybe Maxima can do it too. xD

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[Kane317]

Better and faster than his previous crouching B. Good stuf!

I wonder if he can do:
1.) Cancel his df + C into his hcb + B which is a close grab.
2.) Drive Cancel from hcb + K/BD > qcb + P into his (again) close grab hcb + B > qcb + P

Please try it out if you have time. Thanks!

1.) Works. Crossup C, d.A, df.C, hcb+B connects. I doubt if you added another d.A it'll work.

[Ice-Kun]

1.) Works. Crossup C, d.A, df.C, hcb+B connects. I doubt if you added another d.A it'll work.

Then without HD mode on and with, at least, 3 Power Gauges + Full Drive Meter:
Cross-up C, d.A, df.C, hcb + B > qcb + P Super Cancel DM/EX DM/NEO MAX

EDITED xD

I think by definition if you want to Max Cancel you have to be in hyper drive.

Ah, yes, of course. Sorry about that. Dx

[Kane317]

I think by definition if you want to Max Cancel you have to be in hyper drive.

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Maxima only has three special moves (if you count air.vapor cannon he has four).  The cool thing is he does massive damage and his limit is his stocks (the more he has the more creative the combos can get).  df.C has pretty good horizontal range as well.

Combos:
-d.B, d.A, hcb+B.qcb+P -->
-(d.Ax3)/(d.B, d.A, df.C), Ex qcb+P (wires), df.C, (df.C), dp+K/Ex hcb+K.qcb+P -->
-Crossup j.C, d.A, df.C, qcb+P/hcb+B.qcb+P -->
-Crossup j.C, d.A, df.C, Ex hcb+K.qcb+P, [DC] Ex qcb+P, (wire) df.C, dp+K *In theory, instead of the last dp+K you    could do another Ex hcb+K etc...
-Hyperhop/hop C, Ex air.qcb+P, Ex qcb+P (wires), df.C, dp+K

If, --> Ex hcb+K.qcb+P, [DC] qcb+P, [SC] qcfx2+P
If, --> hcb+K.qcb+P, [SC] qcfx2+P
If HD, --> [SC] qcfx2+P, [MC] hcbx2+P NM

-d.B, d.A, df.C, Ex qcb+P (wires), hcbx2+P NM
-qcb+P (counter), hcbx2+P NM

[Ice-Kun]

Thanks, Kane317. +1

Oh, and one more thing. Please, check if you can connect his aerial Vapor Cannon (A, C and EX versions) from any jumping normals against opponents also in mid-air.

1.) Wire damage
2.) When df.C is used as anti-air, in corner

Thanks again.

[Kane317]

Thanks, Kane317. +1

Oh, and one more thing. Please, check if you can connect his aerial Vapor Cannon (A, C and EX versions) from any jumping normals against opponents also in mid-air.

1.) Wire damage
2.) When df.C is used as anti-air, in corner

Thanks again.

Hmm, I don't suppose why it wouldn't connect for mid-air opponents, but I'll try later on.  EDIT: Only his (hyper)hop C is cancelable, his (hyper)j.C is not.  Course, hop C wouldn't be very good air-to-air (but very good for air-ground at the right distance).  Oh and, backx2 air.qcb+P works a la Kyo, Mai, Yuri etc... =)

Interesting idea, although after wire damage, two df.Cs into dp+K/hcb+K followups is more damaging.

EDIT2: Air-to-air j.A knocks them to far for the air.qcb+A to connect.

Quick notes between these two combos:
--> EX qcb+P (wire), df.C, (df.C), Ex hcb+K -->
vs
--> Ex hcb+K.qcb+P, [DC] Ex qcb+P (wire), df.C, dp+K

Is to use the second one for more damage, but first one if you only have 2 stocks and no Cancels.  Arguably, both combos can be extended but would personally use the first one for SCs and MCs as it uses one less Drive Cancel already.

2.) Drive Cancel from hcb + K/BD > qcb + P into his (again) close grab hcb + B > qcb + P

Tested it today, after his EX hcb+K.qcb+P, it will not drive cancel into his hcb+B.
hcb+B.qcb+P itself will technically drive cancel into qcb+P, but it will not connect, (opponent falls immediately after the follow up to hcb+B.

[Ice-Kun]

b]EDIT:[/b] Only his (hyper)hop C is cancelable, his (hyper)j.C is not.  Course, hop C wouldn't be very good air-to-air (but very good for air-ground at the right distance).  Oh and, backx2 air.qcb+P works a la Kyo, Mai, Yuri etc... =)

SWEET!!

Tested it today, after his EX hcb+K.qcb+P, it will not drive cancel into his hcb+B.
hcb+B.qcb+P itself will technically drive cancel into qcb+P, but it will not connect, (opponent falls immediately after the follow up to hcb+B.

Too bad. Oh, I have another idea. (I'm really sorry if I'm asking too much xD. But really. Thanks, Kane. :3)

Hyper/Hop C, (air)qcb+AC, hcb+K/BD> qcb+P...
Try to experiment which of the versions will connect (or maybe dash cancel into the close grab?) while the opponent is hit stun.

See if it works.

[Kane317]

SWEET!!

Seriously, that makes me keep him permanently.

Too bad. Oh, I have another idea. (I'm really sorry if I'm asking too much xD. But really. Thanks, Kane. :3)

Lol, I wouldn't have noticed what you wrote or read it if I didn't try to quote you. 

Don't worry I have no problem testing any characters I use (Chin, Maxima and Shen for now).  =)  Funny story, today I met a cool guy (Arturo from San Diego, sup ^.^ ) and he was using Shen and Maxima.  I introduced myself and we talked about CX and how I uploaded the videos, later on he did a full Shen combo SCing into DM and he replied, "learned that from you".  I almost died in laughter.  Those moments, no matter how indirect or how insignificance, makes all the trouble in recording worth it.  As long as one single soul benefits, I'm happy to give back to the community.

Hyper/Hop C, (air)qcb+AC, hcb+K/BD> qcb+P...
Try to experiment which of the versions will connect (or maybe dash cancel into the close grab?) while the opponent is hit stun.

See if it works.

Strange thing is, Ex Air Vapor Cannon has such cool animation that after it connects off a hop.C, I remember thinking you can't really see anything when you land, I just slap on Ex Vapor Cannon when I land and away he flies...  Some how I feel it might crumple your opponent and hence Ex Vapor Cannon is your best option (otherwise the BBS would have told us to do a ground combo first).

[Ice-Kun]

kelvindj-combo09-K'

K' Hyper Drive combo in corner. You only need 3 Power Gauges + a full Drive Meter to do this.

j.A, cls.C, BC, cls.C, qcf+A > f.D, qcb+B (hit)> qcb+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, hcb,hcb+AC

kelvindj-combo10-Kula3

Kula Diamond Hyper Drive combo in corner. 4 Power Gauges + 100% Drive Meter.

j.C, cls.C, BC dash, cls.C, qcf+A, qcb+B > f.B, dp+A, [HDC] qcb+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcb+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcb+BD, qcb+B> f.B, hcb,hcb+BD


@Kane317

He's been in my team eversince I started playing KOF (that was KOF 2001) along with K'. I don't see why he's got a few haters. Aside from that MONGOLIAN thing. Hey, I love that move. XD

Must be nice to meet someone with common interests. Even better when you know he's following your posts. That's really something. You deserve another +1. Err.. must wait a few more hours ><

Haha! All the smoke effects might get a little disturbing at times. But anyway, like you said - COOL!

[Kane317]

j.A, cls.C, BC, cls.C, qcf+A > f.D, qcb+B (hit)> qcb+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, dp+A, [HDC] qcf+B, hcb,hcb+AC

I'm no K' expert, but I believe the dps are the C version, not the A but I could be wrong.

[Ice-Kun]

I'm no K' expert, but I believe the dps are the C version, not the A but I could be wrong.

I'm not very sure either. But Crow Bites (A) are cancelable on the 2nd hit too. But yes, C version will work too.

[Kane317]

I'm not very sure either. But Crow Bites (A) are cancelable on the 2nd hit too. But yes, C version will work too.

Oh ok, I was always under the impression that his dp+A was a single hitter while his C version hits multiple times.

EDIT: Today I successfully Guard Pointed (autoguard sounds more natural) Joe's Screw Upper DM (qcfx2+P) with Maxima's Vapor Cannon (qcb+C)!  

-It should be noted that in XIII, you take no damage for using Guard Points.