KOF XIII - Team Kim (Kim Kaphwan, Raiden, Hwa Jai)

[OrochiLeonaUK]

Discussions, combos and tactics for 2010's TEAM JUSTICE!

Raiden

Special Moves:
Poison Mist - qcb P
∟EX: Crumples opponent.
Raiden Bomb - dp P
Head Crusher - hcf K (Close)
∟EX: Increases range.
Giant Bomb - (charge) db, f P > BD (for feint)
DropKick - (charge) K > release

-DM's-
Super Raiden Drop - hcb x2 P (close)
Crazy Train Lariatoooo - qcf x2 P

-NM-
Raiden Bomber - qcf x2 BD

Kim Kaphwan

Command Moves:
Nerichagi - f B
Yopuchagi - f f A

Special Moves:
Hangetsuzan - qcb K
∟EX: Increases invicibility.
Kuchugetsuzan - qcb K (in air)
∟EX: 3 hits.
Hishokyaku - qcf K (in air)
∟EX: Less hits, but doesnt knock opponent away.
Hienzan - (charge) d, u K > d D (for knockdown in D variant)

-DM's-
Hououkyaku - qcb hcf K (ground or air)
∟EX: Faster startup, executes from guard.
Hououhitenkyaku - qcf x2 K

-NM-
Rei Shiki Hououkyaku - qcb hcf AC


Hwa Jai

Command Moves:
Step Kick - fB

Special Moves:
TNT Punch - qcf P > qcf P (Finishing Blow)
Dragon Tail - qcb K (ground or air)
Dragon Kick - dp K (ground or air)

-DM's-
Drink Pink - qcb x2 P
Dragon Dance - qcf x2 K
Dragon Backbreaker - qcf hcb P

-NM-
Final Dragon Kick - qcf hcb BD

Technical Reference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1GSnHwA-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bUwnGP_HGQ

[Dody]

So, Hwa's drinking move are just a DM now???

[PureYeti]

Change Hwa Jai's step kick to df B

*Work in progress*

Kim

Anywhere
Crouch B, close B(?), f, f + A cancel qcb, hcf + K
Jump D, Close B, qcb + K DC charge d, u + D > f + D


**Note** Can juggle with charge d, u + K after qcb + B in the corner
Corner


HyperDrive
(5 stocks only, Fullscreen) Stand B, BC, Close C, cancel f, f + A HD Cancel EX qcb + BD, charge d, u + K (1st hit) SC qcb, hcf + K Max Cancel qcb, hcf + AC


Raiden

Anywhere
Hold B and D then release D first, stand A, release B, dp + P/EX dp + AC  (I'm not sure if thats how it worked)
Hold K, Close C cancel release K
Crouch B, Crouch A, hcf + K
Jump C, Close C, hcf + K

Corner
EX db, f + AC then follow up with dp + P

HyperDrive
Close D (1st hit) BC Close C, hcb, hcb + P
(5 stocks only) Close C, BC, close C cancel EX qcb + AC, EX charge db, f + AC (2nd hit) HD Cancel qcf, qcf + BD Neomax Demo



Hwa Jai

Anywhere
Crouch B, crouch A, close D, dp + K DC qcb + K, qcf, qcf + K

HyperDrive
(5 stocks only, Corner) Close C, df + B, BC, Close C, df + B, dp + K (2nd hit) HD Cancel qcb + K, dp + K (1st hit) HD Cancel qcb + K, then jump qcb + K, qcf, hcb + BD

[kengarou]

Can you guys list their bread and butter combos without BC mode ?   What I mean to say is combos with and without super   

[kengarou]

For your information guys , Raiden's near D  ....the second hit is an overhead. 

just happen to discover.

[kengarou]

Just happen to view this from a versus video Kim

Conditions at corner based on what i see from video , one powerstock with one full (BC)hyperdrive meter

Fwd B ( overhead ) , BC , run near Stand C , qcb D (3 hits i think) , (charge) down up D (2nd or 3rd hit  can't remember) , EX qcb BD , when Kim lands do (charge) down up B , HD cancel to air qcf B (whiff)  then followed by another(charge) down up B. 

Due to what i see from the video , since there is still some hyperdrive meter (BC) left , after down up B , I think it can be followed up by another HD cancel to another air qcf B (whiff) , then down up B again.  It is like a loop the way I see it. And maybe , just maybe after air qcf B (whiff) at the last part , the combo can be finished with EX DM qcb,hcf BD .

[fiol_asociale]

KOF XIII combo13-Kim5a-by kelvindj

KOF XIII combo13-Kim5b-by kelvindj

[kengarou]

Kim's BC combo at the corner transcript according to kelvindj's combos   ( 5 stocks , one full hyperdrive meter)

1)Jump C ,Near C , BC , Near C , fwd fwd A , ex air qcb BD , when Kim lands , do (charge) down up D (one hit ) , HD cancel into qcb K(one hit) , (charge) down up D (3hits) , ex air qcb BD , when Kim lands , do his NEODM qcb fwd AC


(4 stocks , one full hyperdrive meter)
2) Jump C ,Near C , BC , Near C , qcb D (3 hits) , HD cancel into (charge) down up D(3hits), EX air qcb BD , when Kim lands do (charge) down up D (3hits), supercancel into his qcb fwd K DM ,  a few hits later , MAX CANCEL into his NEODM  qcb fwd AC



My own combo customised combo at the corner (5 stocks , one full hyperdrive meter)

3)Jump C ,Near C , BC , Near C , qcb D (3 hits) , HD cancel into (charge) down up D(3hits) , EX air qcb BD , when Kim lands do [ (charge) down up B , then immediately HD cancel into air qcf B ( miss) ] x4 ,  then do DM qcb fwd K ,  after a few hits do MAX cancel into his NEODM qcb fwd AC    ( difficulty: extreme )


Alternatively , after his last air qcf B ( miss) , you can EX DM qcb fwd  BD instead if you only have four stocks.

[PureYeti]

Can you guys list their bread and butter combos without BC mode ?   What I mean to say is combos with and without super   

Yea I'm back from life and summer school so I will be update little by little. From the Oogosho vs random vid, does Raiden's two dropkicks work by hold B and D then release one of them out at a time?

[Don Vecta]

It seems the Raiden's Drop Kick ignores damage scaling inside a combo. Example:

CH d C, db f AC EX, release B Drop Kick, A, release D Drop Kick, db f AC EX, db f AC EX, dp A. This combo causes a rough 97% damage without using a single DM or NM.

[00Bear00]

(4 stocks , one full hyperdrive meter)
2) Jump C ,Near C , BC , Near C , qcb D (3 hits) , HD cancel into (charge) down up D(3hits), EX air qcb BD , when Kim lands do (charge) down up D (3hits), supercancel into his qcb fwd K DM ,  a few hits later , MAX CANCEL into his NEODM  qcb fwd AC

combo wont work without 5 stocks

[PureYeti]

Team Kim combos

KOFXIII character combo Kim

KOFXIII character combo Raiden

KOFXIII character combo Hwa

[Aenthin]

Just a random note:

Kim's Yoppuchagi (f,f+A) really makes Kim fly far, around a bit further than half of the screen. It's cancelable even when used by itself. When it hits but you don't follow it up, he flies backwards a bit but you can still cancel that to any of his aerial attacks (Hangetsu Zan being my favorite).

[PureYeti]

Raiden dropkicks are still normal time in version 1.1. There is no increases on his charge time.

Professor from MMCafe

[Edit] I keep getting mails asking if Raiden's dropkick takes longer to charge in KOFXIIIVer1.1-- quick answer is no, it's still real-time 12s for Lv3 and 16s for Lv4.

[Kei]

Console version changes so far:
Raiden:
Charge kick no longer hits from air resets unless its a counter. However, the move itself still juggles. The damage on it has been nerfed to roughly 10% less damage. Charge time has been increased to 30 counts. Grab range is rumored to be longer to make up for the loss of damage in scaling. Basically, hes become a grappler with a time bomb.