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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #15 on: 20 of March of 2012, 10:14:53 am »

Quote from: Running Wild on 20 of March of 2012, 10:02:26 am
I miss the days when a 4 hit combo in KOF equaled 50% of the enemies lifebar, with no power stock.

Aaaaaand... dizzy! Cheesy
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #16 on: 20 of March of 2012, 12:08:02 pm »

The game plays nothing like BB, I was talking about combo lenght.

Now that's not the combos itself that bugs me, since they have been around forever, the problems is the LENGHT of then.

I think its pointless to take 30 seconds to do a 60% damage combo, with lot's of cancels, when in KOF 98 you only needed some strings to do the same.

For god sake, I can have a snack during most of Ash combos...
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #17 on: 20 of March of 2012, 12:30:10 pm »

The KOF98 Advanced system are obsolete now, because actually people can do complex combos easier than before, KOF2002 removes stunning because this reason and for cancelling.

In these days doing a combo in 98 was harder than now, this system are overexploited, another game with the same system is like another SF2T HD Remix (same game with prehistoric gameplay)

Also, if 98 system would be used maybe had a lot of complaints of stunning because easy stunning.
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #18 on: 20 of March of 2012, 04:07:48 pm »

Quote from: TvKun 2.0 (Panda Edition) on 20 of March of 2012, 12:08:02 pm
The game plays nothing like BB, I was talking about combo lenght.

Now that's not the combos itself that bugs me, since they have been around forever, the problems is the LENGHT of then.

I think its pointless to take 30 seconds to do a 60% damage combo, with lot's of cancels, when in KOF 98 you only needed some strings to do the same.

For god sake, I can have a snack during most of Ash combos...

You still don't make a valid point. There's been (very) long combos in KOF for a long while... especially from your beloved XI when they implemented the damage scaling.
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #19 on: 20 of March of 2012, 04:30:28 pm »

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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #20 on: 20 of March of 2012, 06:08:47 pm »

Quote from: TvKun 2.0 (Panda Edition) on 20 of March of 2012, 12:08:02 pm
The game plays nothing like BB, I was talking about combo lenght.

Now that's not the combos itself that bugs me, since they have been around forever, the problems is the LENGHT of then.

I think its pointless to take 30 seconds to do a 60% damage combo, with lot's of cancels, when in KOF 98 you only needed some strings to do the same.

For god sake, I can have a snack during most of Ash combos...

Well what non KOF game do you like and why? I mean you basically said you dont like this game because if people practice they can do long damaging combos.

Have you tried those combos yourself they are not all that easy so if someone gets them off on you they probably deserved to win
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #21 on: 20 of March of 2012, 06:37:46 pm »

Quote from: TvKun 2.0 (Panda Edition) on 20 of March of 2012, 12:08:02 pm
The game plays nothing like BB, I was talking about combo lenght.

Now that's not the combos itself that bugs me, since they have been around forever, the problems is the LENGHT of then.

I think its pointless to take 30 seconds to do a 60% damage combo, with lot's of cancels, when in KOF 98 you only needed some strings to do the same.

For god sake, I can have a snack during most of Ash combos...
How often does this happen? Do realize the following:
1) Block, Roll, Read, and get defensive.
2) Even the best of the best can't do these combos everyday 24/7
3) Every player has their style of playing

Funny you say that because there is combos that only require 6-10 hits to do big damage, even in KOF XI, you just have to try hard to learn them. Don't forget training mode isn't about learning combos, it's about learning how not to get combo'd to death.
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #22 on: 20 of March of 2012, 11:46:47 pm »

Sorry TV, but you're not showing any strong arguments in your favor. Nobody, including me, has seen the connection you're making and everyone has shown better counter-arguments. It just sounds like you haven't played XIII at all or at least long enough to get a feel for it. Your basis of a good KoF game shows the same if not worse flaws than XIII, since early on XI people discovered exploits and huge combos that with the scaling make it needlessly longer, like the Vanessa infinite or the serious balance issue which made most players use the Gato, Kula, Oswald team. While XIII was better balanced allowing all characters to have a fair shot and equally damaging combos.

If you just don't like the direction XIII took, be it the art-style or gameplay-wise (Such as disliking the HD mode bar) you should just say so instead of trying to come up with a "clever" excuse for disliking the game, because so far it's been far from convincing, not to mention comparing the combos with BB is just way too far-fetched.

The way I see either you need to give the game a 2nd chance or just drop this discussion, you're only making yourself look bad.
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #23 on: 21 of March of 2012, 01:52:46 am »

Quote from: Eddie on 20 of March of 2012, 11:46:47 pm
Sorry TV, but you're not showing any strong arguments in your favor. Nobody, including me, has seen the connection you're making and everyone has shown better counter-arguments. It just sounds like you haven't played XIII at all or at least long enough to get a feel for it. Your basis of a good KoF game shows the same if not worse flaws than XIII, since early on XI people discovered exploits and huge combos that with the scaling make it needlessly longer, like the Vanessa infinite or the serious balance issue which made most players use the Gato, Kula, Oswald team. While XIII was better balanced allowing all characters to have a fair shot and equally damaging combos.

If you just don't like the direction XIII took, be it the art-style or gameplay-wise (Such as disliking the HD mode bar) you should just say so instead of trying to come up with a "clever" excuse for disliking the game, because so far it's been far from convincing, not to mention comparing the combos with BB is just way too far-fetched.

The way I see either you need to give the game a 2nd chance or just drop this discussion, you're only making yourself look bad.

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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #24 on: 22 of March of 2012, 08:19:36 pm »

kof criticism from a kof noob is not worth the effort  Grin
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #25 on: 02 of April of 2012, 04:12:23 pm »

nope, he's not the only one..i don't like it ether.  no offense to anyone but kof is getting old and doesn't bring any new things to the fighting community. Undecided
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #26 on: 02 of April of 2012, 04:56:35 pm »

Same could be said about pretty much every other franchises like SF, Tekken, VF and BB.
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #27 on: 02 of April of 2012, 05:14:15 pm »

Quote from: Eddie on 02 of April of 2012, 04:56:35 pm
Same could be said about pretty much every other franchises like SF, Tekken, VF and BB.

...Or every fighting game cliche in general Roll Eyes

And this is coming from someone who plays a plenty of retro-fighters once in a while!
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #28 on: 02 of April of 2012, 05:59:25 pm »

Quote from: geomega on 02 of April of 2012, 04:12:23 pm
nope, he's not the only one..i don't like it ether.  no offense to anyone but kof is getting old and doesn't bring any new things to the fighting community. Undecided

lol, go figures! Grin
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Re: I don't like KOF XIII, I am the only one?
« Reply #29 on: 02 of April of 2012, 11:02:19 pm »

Quote from: geomega on 02 of April of 2012, 04:12:23 pm
nope, he's not the only one..i don't like it ether.  no offense to anyone but kof is getting old and doesn't bring any new things to the fighting community. Undecided

If you mean it doesnt make cheesy come back gimmicks and keeps simplifying their controls with each new game then you are correct. I am just happy that they made a good game after they screwed up wit XII.

But once again what are these games that are so good that are helping the "community" that I would love to hear
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